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Immersive hypertext editing is as different from emacs html mode, CVS,
and all that as playing video games is different from edit/compile/test
software development. If you're in a groove, and you hit ctrl-v to
paste, and the window scrolls down a screenful instead, it's like
you were watching a movie and suddenly a microphone dropped down
into view, interrupting your suspension of disbelief.

For example, with [http://www.w3.org/Amaya Amaya], you can

* start editing any page you can browse, in direct-manipulation fashion (no HTML coding)
* save into the same space you browse in (no need to make up local file names)
* follow links while you're editing.

Contrast with [[PoorMansHypertext]].

''This is something of a [[ProxyTopic]] for [http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Editor.html Tim Berners-Lee - Editing User Interface]''

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You can drag-n-drop links from firefox into evolution's compose window. That's how [[DanConnolly]] composed [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2005AprJun/0081.html an audit of dawg-comments]. But then evolution doesn't include the links in the text/plain alternative (mozilla thunderbird does, but it doesn't know that [[IntegrityIsJobOne]]) and the [http://www.w3.org/2004/12/hypermail-w3c-patch/ w3c list archive stuff] or throws away the text/html alternative, so the links don't show up in the archive. Sigh. Almost!

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Mozilla has a decent HTML editor, but it doesn't put it into the loop the same
way; it takes many clicks/keystrokes to be able to start editing the page you
were just viewing.   Changing this shouldn't require serious work for someone
who knows their way around mozilla... it's more an issue of getting people see
that a "Start to Edit This Page" menu option and keystroke would be a Good Thing.

Of course so little of the web lets you edit it, people see little reason for
it.  It would be a good start if Wikis let you edit the HTML if you happen
to have Amaya/Mozilla/etc.  How could this 
be done?  It would require:
# Either a way to get rid of the wiki framing (header and footer),
   or just very clear <div ...> markings to keep them separate.
# A precise bi-directional mapping between (some version of) HTML and
   (some version of) wiki text.  Probably best to make a 3rd carefully
   design structured-text format and map them both to that.

See [[StructuredTextOntology]].

If you must edit XHTML or RDF/XML source... 
[http://xmlhack.com/read.php?item=2061 xmlhack: James Clark unveils a new XML mode for GNU Emacs]

An other free XHTML editor...
[http://xstandard.com] by [http://mes-biographies.com John Foone]

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hmm... I ([[DanConnolly]]) just started a draft using evolution's HTML composing
support on my desktop, but I can't edit that from my laptop nor my
wearable. For example:

I tried editing a wiki topic on my wearable; I failed to post it for
some reason; had to mail it back to myself and clean up on
the laptop. Not that bad a process, really, considering my
the mail user agent on my gizmo, like many MUAs, knows that
[[IntegrityIsJobOne]]: in-progress drafts survive reboots and such.

[http://kupu.oscom.org/ OSCOM Kupu - Kupu WYSIWYG XHTML Editor]

[http://wordpress.org/about/screenshots/ WordPress &#65533;&#128;&#65533; About - direct-manipulation blogpost editor, with live demo]

[http://www.nvu.com/ Nvu - The Complete Web Authoring System for Linux]
[http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemacs/ qemacs] -- direct-manipulation XHTML/CSS2 editing.

[http://www.gnome.org/~clarkbw/monkey-journal/ Monkey Journal -- a blog editor]

[http://www.themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2007/02/22/ The Man in Blue > widgEditor: A simple, standards-compliant WYSIWYG HTML editor]

A powerfull XHTML editor [http://www.oxygenxml.com/xhtml_editor.html] by [http://www.une-recette.com Devy Lee]

WYSIWYG XHTML Editor [http://www.tinymce.moxiecode.com Tiny MCE XHTML editor] by [http://atarlay.free.fr web]

Veryp XHTML Editor too [http://www.wym-editor.org Wym] by [http://agences-de.com Agence]

[http://kupu.oscom.org/ Kupu], [http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2005/04/28/kupu.html Rich Web Text Editing with Kupu]
by Robert Jones
04/28/2005